New Episode of Ms.’s On The Issues With Michele Goodwin Podcast: End of Roe v. Wade?

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE | September 16, 2021

On the Issues with Michele Goodwin is a popular, issues and policy-focused podcast featuring feminist analysis, insightful conversations and exciting guests. This is the first podcast from Ms. magazine, a legacy feminist publication. In each bi-weekly episode, host Dr. Michele Goodwin and special guests will tackle the most compelling issues of our times, centering feminist concerns about rebuilding our nation and advancing the promise of equality.

A new episode—The End of Roe v. Wade? (with Dorothy Roberts)—is available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and

In this episode, Dr. Goodwin and reproductive rights expert and Professor Dorothy Roberts unpack Texas’ new abortion ban, the Supreme Court’s decision to let it stand, and what the legacies of legislative interference with reproductive decision-making and autonomy mean for women, people who can become pregnant, and for our American democracy. 

You can find a full transcript of the episode here, as well as a few excerpts below:

“All we’ve done is state what the law says. It says that anyone who suspects that someone has performed an abortion or aided someone to get an abortion can sue them and get 10,000 dollars or more if they win this lawsuit, and their attorney’s fees paid. That is…what’s the point of that? It’s clearly an incentive for people to track down women who have abortions.” —Dorothy Roberts

“Many Americans have been willing to put Black women in harmful situations in order to achieve some other broader policy goal.” —Dorothy Roberts

“It is all about shame, humiliation, surveillance, punishment, control, and far too often it ends up with termination of parental rights, which is at a far higher rate for Black children.” —Dorothy Roberts

Meet the Host of On the Issues: Dr. Michele Goodwin is a frequent contributor to Ms. Magazine and on She is a Chancellor’s Professor at the University of California, Irvine and also serves on the executive committee and national board of the ACLU. Dr. Goodwin is a prolific author and an elected member of the American Law Institute, as well as an elected Fellow of the American Bar Foundation and the Hastings Center. Her most recent book, Policing The Womb: Invisible Women and The Criminalization of Motherhood is described as a “must read.”

About Ms. Magazine: Co-founded by Gloria Steinem in 1972 and published by the Feminist Majority Foundation since 2001, Ms. magazine has been a trusted, popular source for feminist news and information in print and online for nearly 50 years. Ms.’s time-honored traditions of an emphasis on in-depth investigative reporting and feminist political analysis have never been more relevant, bringing a new generation of writers and readers together to share news, analysis, research and strategies for fighting back and moving forward, for shaping the future.


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