New Episode of Ms.’s On The Issues With Michele Goodwin Podcast — Supreme Court Rundown: Will Roe Survive?


On the Issues with Michele Goodwin is a popular, issues and policy-focused podcast featuring feminist analysis, insightful conversations and exciting guests. This is the first podcast from Ms. magazine, a legacy feminist publication. In each bi-weekly episode, host Dr. Michele Goodwin and special guests will tackle the most compelling issues of our times, centering feminist concerns about rebuilding our nation and advancing the promise of equality.

A new episode—Supreme Court Rundown: Will Roe Survive? (with Hillary Schneller, Brigitte Amiri, Aziza Ahmed, Renee Bracey Sherman and Shannon Brewer)—is available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and

In this episode, Dr. Goodwin is joined by lawyers, reproductive rights advocates, and healthcare providers to debrief the oral arguments in one of the most important Supreme Court cases of a generation.

On December 1, the Supreme Court heard arguments in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization—a case that some believe could overturn Roe v. Wade. The case involves a Mississippi abortion provision, banning most abortions after 15 weeks—with no exceptions for rape or incest. What’s at stake—both in terms of abortion rights, and in terms of the Supreme Court’s legitimacy?

You can find a full transcript of the episode here, as well as a few excerpts below:

“All of us deserve to be able to decide if, when, and how to grow our families on our own terms.” — Renee Bracey Sherman

“The thing that feels so crazy to me is how nobody acknowledges on who’s back that is going to fall. It is poor women, it is Black women, it is Latina women, it is women of color, who cannot access an abortion in this country for the most part, and it is those same women who often need abortion, and by the Court remaining ‘neutral,’ they’re actually acting in a way that will harm so many.” — Aziza Ahmed

“They pretend like these little laws don’t mean anything, but it’s showing you that these little bitty laws that they’ve gotten passed over the years, this is the big impact that they have been trying to get accomplished the whole time, they just do it little by little. And now they’ve gotten it down to one clinic.” — Shannon Brewer

“I think that Kavanaugh was signaling that he thinks it might be okay to overturn Roe v. Wade, and I think he’s laying the groundwork for his justification, if that’s how he votes.” — Brigitte Amiri

“There’s a reason that certain decisions are not left up to the states. But right, I think the state is coming to the Court now given the change in the composition of the Court with a very radical request that it has not made quite so forthrightly before.” — Hillary Schneller

Meet the Host of On the Issues: Dr. Michele Goodwin is a frequent contributor to Ms. Magazine and on She is a Chancellor’s Professor at the University of California, Irvine and also serves on the executive committee and national board of the ACLU. Dr. Goodwin is a prolific author and an elected member of the American Law Institute, as well as an elected Fellow of the American Bar Foundation and the Hastings Center. Her most recent book, Policing The Womb: Invisible Women and The Criminalization of Motherhood is described as a “must read.”

About Ms. Magazine: Co-founded by Gloria Steinem in 1972 and published by the Feminist Majority Foundation since 2001, Ms. magazine has been a trusted, popular source for feminist news and information in print and online for nearly 50 years. Ms.’s time-honored traditions of an emphasis on in-depth investigative reporting and feminist political analysis have never been more relevant, bringing a new generation of writers and readers together to share news, analysis, research and strategies for fighting back and moving forward, for shaping the future.


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