New Episode of Ms.’s On The Issues With Michele Goodwin Podcast — American Terrorism: Abortion Clinics on the Front Lines

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE | November 23, 2021

On the Issues with Michele Goodwin is a popular, issues and policy-focused podcast featuring feminist analysis, insightful conversations and exciting guests. This is the first podcast from Ms. magazine, a legacy feminist publication. In each bi-weekly episode, host Dr. Michele Goodwin and special guests will tackle the most compelling issues of our times, centering feminist concerns about rebuilding our nation and advancing the promise of equality.

A new episode—American Terrorism: Abortion Clinics on the Front Lines (with Diane Derzis, Dr. Monica McLemore and Frances Kissling)—is available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and

In this episode, Dr. Goodwin is joined by abortion providers and advocates to discuss a uniquely American form of terrorism—violence at the abortion clinic. As the December oral arguments date for Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization case fast approaches, all eyes are on the Supreme Court. But what’s happening at the on the ground, at clinics that provide abortions and reproductive health services where persistent, even daily violence against patients and providers goes overlooked and under-addressed?  

You can find a full transcript of the episode here, as well as a few excerpts below:

“The FBI hasn’t answered the phone for Jackson Women’s Clinic in the last two years. That’s pretty frightening. I mean, it just goes beyond anything you would imagine.” —Diane Derzis

“Killed. They were killed. There were five or six cases of doctors who have been murdered who performed abortions. Buffalo had a case, we all know Dr. Tiller. We have doctors who talk about it now, Dr. Hern in Colorado is very outspoken about this, the man who lives with a bullet-proof vest on. You know, there was an awareness. There was also enormous courage on the part of those doctors who were most public about providing abortion care.” —Frances Kissling

“What are we facing? We are facing this situation where for the past 40 years there has been a mounted attack of both violence and in my opinion, harassment, intimidation of people seeking abortion. We have always been the canary in the coal mine who have been subject to practices that we are currently seeing being played out in a whole variety of other places within our democracy and in our society.” —Dr. Monica McLemore

Meet the Host of On the Issues: Dr. Michele Goodwin is a frequent contributor to Ms. Magazine and on She is a Chancellor’s Professor at the University of California, Irvine and also serves on the executive committee and national board of the ACLU. Dr. Goodwin is a prolific author and an elected member of the American Law Institute, as well as an elected Fellow of the American Bar Foundation and the Hastings Center. Her most recent book, Policing The Womb: Invisible Women and The Criminalization of Motherhood is described as a “must read.”

About Ms. Magazine: Co-founded by Gloria Steinem in 1972 and published by the Feminist Majority Foundation since 2001, Ms. magazine has been a trusted, popular source for feminist news and information in print and online for nearly 50 years. Ms.’s time-honored traditions of an emphasis on in-depth investigative reporting and feminist political analysis have never been more relevant, bringing a new generation of writers and readers together to share news, analysis, research and strategies for fighting back and moving forward, for shaping the future.


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