New Episode of Ms.’s On the Issues Podcast: ‘Not My Type’: How Two Women Took Down Trump on Sexual Assault (With E. Jean Carroll and Roberta Kaplan)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE | JULY 23, 2025

The episode is available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and MsMagazine.com.

On the Issues with Michele Goodwin is a popular, issues and policy-focused podcast featuring feminist analysis, insightful conversations and exciting guests. This is the first podcast from Ms. magazine, a legacy feminist publication. In each episode, host Dr. Michele Goodwin and special guests will tackle the most compelling issues of our times, centering feminist concerns about rebuilding our nation and advancing the promise of equality.

A new episode—‘Not My Type’: How Two Women Took Down Trump on Sexual Assault (With E. Jean Carroll and Roberta Kaplan)—is available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and MsMagazine.com.

Not even a year into the second Trump administration, it’s clear that people are struggling for hope. But there’s hope to be found in so many places, including in the wisdom of the women who took on Trump—and won.

E. Jean Carroll and her lawyer Roberta “Robbie” Kaplan made headlines in 2023 and 2024 for winning a significant legal battle against Trump, with a jury finding him guilty of sexual abuse and defamation, and awarding Carroll $5 and then later an $83.3 million verdict. What can the feminist resistance learn from E. Jean Carroll’s case to fuel our fight forward?

A full transcript of the episode may be found here, as well as a few excerpts below:

“She said, do not go to the police. He has 200 lawyers. He’ll bury you. ..I was silent for 26 years after that.” — E. Jean Carroll

“We had to spend, I don’t know how many hours—many, many hours getting E. Jean to grapple with how damaged she had been by what Donald Trump did, and frankly, it wasn’t even the lawyers. It was our expert psychologist who we brought in who ended up testifying.” — Roberta Kaplan

Meet the Host of On the Issues: Dr. Michele Goodwin is a prolific thought leader on matters of constitutional law and health policy. In addition to Ms. magazine, Dr. Goodwin’s commentary can be read in The Atlantic, The New York Times, the Nation, CNN and The L.A. Times, among others. She holds the Linda D. & Timothy J. O’Neill chair in constitutional law and global health policy at Georgetown Law School and serves as the co-faculty director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law. She is the executive producer of Ms. Studios.

About Ms. Magazine: Co-founded by Gloria Steinem in 1971 and published by the Feminist Majority Foundation since 2001, Ms. magazine has been a trusted, popular source for feminist news and information in print and online for over 50 years. Ms.’s time-honored traditions of an emphasis on in-depth investigative reporting and feminist political analysis have never been more relevant, bringing a new generation of writers and readers together to share news, analysis, research and strategies for fighting back and moving forward, for shaping the future.

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