New episode of Ms.’s On the Issues Podcast—The Trump Indictments: Unsealing the Federal Indictment


On the Issues with Michele Goodwin is a popular, issues and policy-focused podcast featuring feminist analysis, insightful conversations and exciting guests. This is the first podcast from Ms. magazine, a legacy feminist publication. In each bi-weekly episode, host Dr. Michele Goodwin and special guests will tackle the most compelling issues of our times, centering feminist concerns about rebuilding our nation and advancing the promise of equality. 

A new episode—Fifteen Minutes of Feminism—The Trump Indictments: Unsealing the Federal Indictment (with Leah Litman)—is available now on Apple PodcastsSpotify and

In this episode, On the Issues is joined by Leah Litman to continue our series: The Trump Indictments, unpacking the civil and criminal charges alleging that the former president Donald Trump engaged in illegal activities. In early June 2023, for the second time in two months, Trump was indicted—this time on 37 felony counts for allegedly mishandling sensitive, classified government materials and obstruction of justice. What does this most recent indictment mean for Trump, the 2024 elections, and the future of American democracy as a whole?

A full transcript of the episode may be found here, as well as a few excerpts below:

“Look, when you are constantly going on TV and saying, ‘I’m doing some crimes,’ bragging about it on social media and videotaping yourself doing some crimes, it turns out at some point the federal government will indict you.” —Leah Litman

“When the federal government asked for the materials back, he basically tried to find people to hide the documents and to help him get away with this.” —Leah Litman

Meet the Host of On the Issues: Dr. Michele Goodwin is executive producer with Ms. Studios, as well as a frequent contributor to Ms. Magazine and on She is a Chancellor’s Professor at the University of California, Irvine and also serves on the executive committee and national board of the ACLU. Dr. Goodwin is a prolific author and an elected member of the American Law Institute, as well as an elected Fellow of the American Bar Foundation and the Hastings Center. Her most recent book, Policing The Womb: Invisible Women and The Criminalization of Motherhood is described as a “must read.”

About Ms. Magazine: Co-founded by Gloria Steinem in 1972 and published by the Feminist Majority Foundation since 2001, Ms. magazine has been a trusted, popular source for feminist news and information in print and online for nearly 50 years. Ms.’s time-honored traditions of an emphasis on in-depth investigative reporting and feminist political analysis have never been more relevant, bringing a new generation of writers and readers together to share news, analysis, research and strategies for fighting back and moving forward, for shaping the future.


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