New Episode of Ms.’s “On The Issues With Michele Goodwin” Podcast: Confronting Systemic Male Violence As Kids Return to School


On the Issues with Michele Goodwin is a popular, issues and policy-focused podcast featuring feminist analysis, insightful conversations and exciting guests. This is the first podcast from Ms. magazine, a legacy feminist publication. In each bi-weekly episode, host Dr. Michele Goodwin and special guests will tackle the most compelling issues of our times, centering feminist concerns about rebuilding our nation and advancing the promise of equality. 

A new episode—Fifteen Minutes of Feminism: Confronting Systemic Male Violence As Kids Return to School—is available now on Apple PodcastsSpotify and

In this episode, “On the Issues” considers the American social and political landscape as children go back to school. As mass shootings devastate communities across the country, parents are packing bulletproof protection in their children’s backpacks and sending them to school with lessons on how to survive a mass shooting. Jackson Katz joins Dr. Michele Goodwin to discuss the complicated issues at the heart of this crisis including questions related to masculinity, why mass shootings are overwhelmingly committed by men, and the implications in light of the rise in white supremacy in the United States.

A full transcript of the episode may be found here, as well as a few excerpts below:

“I think what people really generally refer to when they say toxic masculinity is abusive behavior of some kind, whether it’s sexual entitlement or aggressive behavior or violence.” —Jackson Katz

“I would say violence is not an end unto itself. It’s a means to an end. People use violence for a reason. They’re trying to get something. They’re trying to perform a certain kind of manhood, if you will.” —Jackson Katz

“Violence always has to be understood as a means to an end. The question becomes then, why are so many men and young men feeling like they need to use violence to get something? What are they trying to get?” —Jackson Katz

Meet the Host of On the Issues: Dr. Michele Goodwin is a frequent contributor to Ms. Magazine and on She is a Chancellor’s Professor at the University of California, Irvine and also serves on the executive committee and national board of the ACLU. Dr. Goodwin is a prolific author and an elected member of the American Law Institute, as well as an elected Fellow of the American Bar Foundation and the Hastings Center. Her most recent book, Policing The Womb: Invisible Women and The Criminalization of Motherhood is described as a “must read.”

About Ms. Magazine: Co-founded by Gloria Steinem in 1972 and published by the Feminist Majority Foundation since 2001, Ms. magazine has been a trusted, popular source for feminist news and information in print and online for nearly 50 years. Ms.’s time-honored traditions of an emphasis on in-depth investigative reporting and feminist political analysis have never been more relevant, bringing a new generation of writers and readers together to share news, analysis, research and strategies for fighting back and moving forward, for shaping the future.


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