New Episode of “On The Issues with Michele Goodwin” Responds to Recent SCOTUS Ruling in June Medical v. Russo


On the Issues with Michele Goodwin is a new issues- and policy-focused podcast featuring feminist analysis, insightful conversations and exciting guests. This is the first podcast from Ms. magazine, a legacy feminist publication.

In each bi-weekly episode, host Dr. Michele Goodwin and special guests will tackle the most compelling issues of our times, centering feminist concerns about rebuilding our nation and advancing the promise of equality.

In a brand new episode, Professor Goodwin is joined in conversation by four incredible guests: Yamani Hernandez, Executive Director, National Network of Abortion Funds; Nancy Northup, President, Center for Reproductive Rights; Kathaleen Pittman, Clinic Administrator, Hope Medical Group for Women & Director, June Medical Services; and Mary Ziegler, Law Professor, Historian & Author of Abortion and the Law in America: Roe v. Wade to the Present.

The episode is available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and

What are the differences between reproductive justice and reproductive rights? What does the recent Supreme Court ruling in June Medical v. Russo mean for abortion rights moving forward? What’s at stake in the Election this November? How can we ensure abortion is available to all who need or want one? In this one-hour episode, Dr. Goodwin and her guests discuss these critically important questions—and more.

Their conversation covered a wide range of topics; you can find a full transcript here, as well as a few excerpts below:

“A person is 14x more likely to die during pregnancy—by carrying a pregnancy to term—than by having an abortion… And we know also that there are tremendous racial disparities when it comes to maternal mortality in this country.” —Host Michele Goodwin

“Everyone who’s listening to this show needs to know that they need to show up for the social movement work. We need to articulate our vision of American society that we want, which is a society that does treat everyone with equality and respect and that has
policies that meet human need.” —Nancy Northup, President, Center for Reproductive Rights

“Our physicians have been targeted, our medical director [has been targeted] at his private practice, as well as his home and around his neighborhood. Protesters outside delight in calling staff by name and looking for us on social media… We have constant concerns… Even during the pandemic, when we saw a fewer number of protesters gathering outside the clinic, we were actually getting more harassing phone calls, threatening phone calls.” —Kathaleen Pittman, Clinic Administrator, Hope Medical Group for Women & Director, June Medical Services

“Our members on the ground have continued to still have to travel people across states, have had to pay for housing, have had to pay for child care or watch people’s children, house people, provide emotional support. So, it’s not just the fact of legality of abortion, but also the too strenuous measures that it takes to actually get to care.” —Yamani Hernandez, Executive Director, National Network of Abortion Funds

“[Chief Justice John] Roberts even kind of eerily made the point that no one had asked him to overturn Roe v. Wade, or Planned Parenthood v. Casey. So, we still don’t know what he would do, if directly presented with an invitation to do that.” —Mary Ziegler, Law Professor, Historian & Author

Meet the Host of On the Issues: Dr. Michele Goodwin is a frequent contributor to Ms. magazine and on She is a Chancellor’s Professor at the University of California, Irvine and also serves on the executive committee and national board of the ACLU. Dr. Goodwin is a prolific author and an elected member of the American Law Institute, as well as an elected Fellow of the American Bar Foundation and the Hastings Center. Her most recent book, Policing The Womb: Invisible Women and The Criminalization of Motherhood, is described as a “must read.”

About Ms. Magazine: Co-founded by Gloria Steinem in 1972 and published by the Feminist Majority Foundation since 2001, Ms. magazine has been a trusted, popular source for feminist news and information in print and online for nearly 50 years. Ms.’s time-honored traditions of an emphasis on in-depth investigative reporting and feminist political analysis have never been more relevant, bringing a new generation of writers and readers together to create the feminism of the future.


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